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Hello, everybody,
and welcome to my lecture.

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I am very grateful to the organizer of
Studium Generale for this invitation.

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And I decided to present today
on the topic of law and literature,

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and specifically on the Japanese legal
system as seen through Literary Sources.

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My name is Giorgio Colombo,
and I'm a professor

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at the Graduate School of Law
at Nagoya University.

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So, this is my starting point.

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I assume that most of you
probably read books for fun.

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Read novels, read literature
for entertaining

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or maybe you watch TV series,
or you play video games,

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or you watch TV for the same purpose.

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And I know some of you are law students,

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but I also am under the assumption that
many of you probably do not study law.

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And law tends to be perceived
as a relatively boring subject

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by non-lawyers,
and sometimes even by lawyers.

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But the purpose of this lecture is to
make everybody understand that

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you can learn a lot about law
from non-legal sources,

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from novels, from manga, from movies,
from TV series, from video games.

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So, while I will focus mostly
on literature in kind of

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a conservative science,
books and novels,

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I will also try to offer you some ideas

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on how to use pop culture
to learn about the legal system.

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And since we are in Japan, and my
area of research is comparative law,

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I compare Japanese law
with European law.

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Today, the main focus will be
the Japanese legal system.

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So, in the recent years,

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studies in law and humanities
have developed immensely.

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Until a few decades ago,
it was considered kind of strange

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to use non-legal sources
to approach the legal system,

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but actually, now it is
a fully legitimate area of study.

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So, what I do sounds a bit exotic,
in some context,

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but for example,
in the United States, in Australia,

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these studies in law and humanities
are very, very common

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and very, very mainstream.

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And as I mentioned before,
while at the beginning,

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the focus was primarily on literature
in a conservative sense,

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now we have legal analysis
based on popular culture as well.

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So, as I mentioned before,
like video games, manga, and so on.

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And you can see like, there were many
books written in the recent years

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on this idea, the relationship
between law and literature.

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And we have even
entire university programs

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focusing on these specific area
of research,

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law and humanities.

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But also we move to popular culture.

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So, we have a lot of research about

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how the legal system is represented,

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and in some ways,
even shaped by the popular sources.

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This is something
that is kind of normal.

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Most people actually ...

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the idea that most people have
about the law and the legal system

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is based on popular sources.

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We all watched movies with lawyers.

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We all watched TV series with lawyers.

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And in the popular imagination,
that is the law.

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Most of those movies and series are not
accurate from a technical point of view,

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they don't purpose to represent
the law in a faithful way.

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Nevertheless,
they're extremely important

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because they shape the popular
imagination about what the law is.

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And now, for example,
in the United States,

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sometimes court have problems
because people serving on jury duty,

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they want to play the juror
they've seen in the movies,

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but being in a jury duty
is something slightly quite different

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than what you see in the movies.

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Anyway, we have a development also in
studies about law and popular culture,

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again, because the perception
of the law people have

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is shaped by popular culture,

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and for the people
who deal with law professionally,

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it is extremely important to understand
how people perceive the law,

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how people approach the law,
how people imagine the law.

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So, we have these kind
of programs as well.

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Now, these area of studies
was originally developed

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in the United States, and there are
a few reasons for that.

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One is that like elite institutions
in the United States, as always,

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they are always like the forerunner
for academic experiments.

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So, when this area
was a relatively unexplored,

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many top level universities in
the United States started the movement.

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And there is also this idea that
in the United States,

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law is closer to the society
than in other places.

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I'm not sure whether this is accurate
or not,

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but there is a reason why legal dramas

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are so widespread in the United States,

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and not that much in other countries
or in other legal cultures.

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And we will discuss that in a second.

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Why do I mention this issue?

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Because the fact that this field of
study was born in the United States

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has, as consequence, the fact that
most law and literature studies,

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they tend to focus on
what we call in comparative law,

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the western legal tradition.

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And specifically, when these scholars

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analyze the relationship
between law and literature,

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they do that mostly on
the literature written in English,

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which means British literature,
American literature,

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Australian regions,
or post-colonial literature.

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But these factor that
this area of studies was born

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in elite institutions in the
United States, and even in Britain ...

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has as a side effect, the fact that

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so far, we have little attention
to other cultures.

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In other words,
you don't have so many studies

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on different literatures

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because, first,
of these historical fact.

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And second, because
the specialists of law and literature,

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they tend to be studying
in those places.

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So, there are language barriers, like,
not many people speak many languages.

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And so, everybody speaks English.
So, it's easier to do that.

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And also, there is this thing about
like the role of law in the society.

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This is a bit a generalization,
is a bit simplistic as an analysis.

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But for example, in the United States,

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you see a much stronger
popular participation in the law.

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I mentioned the jury.

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Now, the jury we see in movies
is a typical feature

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of the American legal system.

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We do not have such kind of juries
in continental Europe or in Japan.

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So, normal people are way more involved
in the legal process in that sense.

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Whereas in countries like Japan,
law is still largely perceived

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as something for experts,
between experts.

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We think things are changing
in the recent years,

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but there is this division.

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Also, again, this is a bit simplistic,

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but for example, there are some features

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of the American court trial.

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They're quite spectacular.

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Again, you all seen the movies
with a lawyer, giving the closing speech

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in front of the jury,
using a lot of rhetorics

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and making these
motivational speech doing the case.

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In most countries, court litigation
is actually extremely boring

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and based on documents.

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I'm a lawyer myself,
I used to practice law back in Italy.

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And most civil litigation in a country,
like Italy or Japan or Germany,

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is basically you submit documents
to the court, and the court reads them.

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So, the visual representation
of a normal hearing

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in civil litigation
will be the judge asking lawyers,

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“Have you filed the documents?”

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Lawyers will say, yes.

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And judge will say,
"Okay, see you in three months."

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So, not very exciting, right?

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Not very spectacular, not very suitable
for popular representation in a way.

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But the problem is that, of course, the
law is different in different countries.

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And we speak about legal cultures,
specifically

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because law and culture are related.

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Why?

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For example, there is a certain
regulation of family law in one country

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and a different regulation
in another country

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because of the underlying culture.

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So, as it was already pointed out
by some scholars,

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I am just quoting one of them,
the problem is that

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the fact that law and literature
was born in the United States

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makes it a bit difficult
to apply the same analysis

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created for the English speaking world
in the United States

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and the American legal system
to other legal culture,

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to other legal system.

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And this is a problem we are dealing
with in our field of study.

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Sorry, there is a one sentence
in Italian ... apologies.

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So, the thing is, law and literature,

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it's a very fascinating field of study.

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And it's not just like lawyers want
to look cultivated

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and they want to show off, say,
we read a lot of books,

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we are very knowledgeable
about literature, and so on.

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But it's very important for the lawyers
to understand how law is represented

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in society and in the arts

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because it gives us a lot of
extremely useful information

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about how the law is actually perceived
by the population.

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As you understand ...

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the users of the legal system,
people affected by the legal system

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are all the citizens, all the people,
not just the lawyer.

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So, maybe one lawyer,
one jury is somebody

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who studies or applies law
as their main occupation,

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fully understands the rationale
behind the legislation,

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fully understands
how to use some legal institution,

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but the general audience doesn't.

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So, it's very important to understand
what's going on in society.

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So, why should we study
how law is represented in literature?

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What are the functions and roles
of the study of law and literature?

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We have writers, novelist, and authors

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giving us external control over the law.

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They don't know
the technicalities of the law.

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So, they represent the law
as they see that.

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And this is extremely useful
because as I said a few seconds ago,

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lawyers are already buyers,
they already know how the law should be.

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And also, lawyers can give us, sorry,

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writers can give us a representation
of social needs.

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Imagine, for example, that in a novel,
the main character cannot do something

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because the law prevents them
to do that.

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That's a problem.

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Maybe there is a social need
the law is unable to accommodate.

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And as lawyers,
we should be aware of that.

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And also, again,
we know how the law is made as lawyers

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and we know
what's the purpose of the law,

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but then, it's not necessarily the case
that people see through that.

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So, for example, if a law was created
by the legislature for one purpose

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and then is applied in a different way,
we need to know that.

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And also, the representation of law
in literature,

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it's very important for the
collective imagination about the law.

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For example, you might have heard
of the book "To Kill a Mockingbird,"

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is a book about a trial, as a black man
prosecuted in the United States

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during the period in which
the civil rights movement was starting.

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That book was so influential on the
perception of the civil rights movement

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that it was more effective,
to some extent, than a legal reform.

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And it was a piece of literature.

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So, let's move to Japan.

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When I say the Japanese legal system,
and I speak about the Japanese context,

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I just want to specify that
I today will only cover

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Japanese law and Japanese literature,

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and Japanese law
in non-Japanese literature,

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which means works produced by writers,
authors who are not Japanese.

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Okay.

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When we approach a text
and we want to see what can we learn

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about law from these novel, or play,

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or manga, whatever ...

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we need to ask ourselves a few question,

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because of course,
we need to ask ourselves, like,

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is the author lawyer,
or do they have legal expertise ...

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because, of course,
if somebody is a lawyer,

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they will know a lot about the law.

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So, even if they write a novel,

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most likely,
their representation will be accurate.

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Also, we need to ask ourselves,
is the author contemporary to the plot

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because people normally have a better
perception of the society they live in

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rather than another historical moment.

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We need to ask ourselves
is the author Japanese, because again,

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an internal perception is different
from an external perception.

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And we need to see
how law is used in the story,

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whether it plays a major role
or a minor role.

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And also, we need to see
how the characters feel about the law.

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Do they feel like injustice?

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Or do they feel the law protects them?

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And as readers,
how do we feel about the law

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after approaching some literary works?

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Okay, apologies for this fairly long

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theoretical explanation and framing.

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But now, let's put that in practice.

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So, let's see a few works
that are very, very, very influential

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in the Japanese historical
artistical history,

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and see how the law works there.

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So, for example,
you might be familiar with Chūshingura,

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the story of the 47 Ronin.

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That was a very, very famous
Bunraku puppet play,

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and then became a Kabuki play
and then became ...

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well, there are so many versions
of Chūshingura, the 47 Ronin,

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including a very strange film
with Keanu Reeves made a few years ago.

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Now, what's the story
behind Chūshingura?

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So, there is a dispute
between two nobles.

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One noble is a warrior,
a very pure person, very brave.

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But he's not particularly good at

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court ceremonials and etiquette.

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And then, there is this other noble,
who is the contrary.

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He is kind of like a sleazy plotter
who is very, very good

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at all protocol and etiquette.

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And the first one, the noble one,
the good guy in the story ...

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asked some advice to the bad guy

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about how to deal with some envoys
from the Shogun,

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and the bad guy gives him, on purpose,
wrong advice to make him look bad

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in front of like the Shogunate.

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So, the good guy gets enraged
and tries to kill the bad guy,

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but the bad guy survives.

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Now, the good guy committed the crime

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because he basically tried to kill
somebody in the Palace of the Shogun.

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So, that was a very serious crime
in Japanese law under the Tokugawa.

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So, he was sentenced to commit suicide.

00:19:52.726 --> 00:19:56.696
When a noble died
in a situation like this,

00:19:56.730 --> 00:20:02.135
so after a sentence,
his family was disbanded,

00:20:02.168 --> 00:20:08.608
and his retainers lost the rank they had

00:20:08.641 --> 00:20:13.580
and became a Ronin
which is masterless samurai.

00:20:13.613 --> 00:20:17.851
So, all the retainers of this noble
who had to commit suicide,

00:20:17.884 --> 00:20:21.254
they feel that the situation is unjust

00:20:21.287 --> 00:20:28.128
because their master, their Lord
was tricked by the bad guy.

00:20:28.161 --> 00:20:32.966
And so, they feel that it's unfair
that only their Lord was punished,

00:20:32.999 --> 00:20:36.036
and the bad guys left for free.

00:20:36.069 --> 00:20:39.305
So, they decide to commit revenge.

00:20:39.339 --> 00:20:42.876
So, they plot the revenge
for a long time

00:20:42.909 --> 00:20:46.579
because, of course, the bad guy
expects them to commit to revenge.

00:20:46.613 --> 00:20:51.851
When they are sure
the revenge can be committed,

00:20:51.885 --> 00:20:57.223
they attack the bad guy's residence,
and they kill him,

00:20:57.257 --> 00:21:01.728
and they bring his head
to the grave of their master,

00:21:01.761 --> 00:21:06.266
and then they turn themselves
into the Shogunal authority.

00:21:06.299 --> 00:21:09.736
They go there and say,
"Hey, we committed a crime.

00:21:09.769 --> 00:21:14.908
We committed a crime, we know
it's a crime because we killed somebody,

00:21:14.941 --> 00:21:20.747
but at the same time,
we fulfilled our duty as a retainer.

00:21:20.780 --> 00:21:26.453
So, we violated the state law
by committing murder,

00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:31.958
but at the same time, we performed
our duty as good retainers."

00:21:31.991 --> 00:21:38.465
So, there is this contrast
between law and justice.

00:21:38.531 --> 00:21:42.135
So, the Shogunal authorities don't know
what to do with them,

00:21:42.168 --> 00:21:45.572
because they're criminals in a way,
they committed a crime.

00:21:45.605 --> 00:21:51.144
But at the same time,
they did also something very

00:21:51.177 --> 00:21:56.316
morally worth
because they avenged their master.

00:21:56.349 --> 00:22:01.154
So, eventually, there is a long debate
in the Shogun court.

00:22:01.221 --> 00:22:03.023
And at the end of the story,

00:22:03.056 --> 00:22:07.694
the Ronin are given
the privilege of committing suicide.

00:22:07.761 --> 00:22:10.463
In Tokugawa law,

00:22:10.497 --> 00:22:15.135
the permission of committing suicide
was considered a noble death.

00:22:15.168 --> 00:22:18.638
So, in a way, it was a death sentence,

00:22:18.672 --> 00:22:23.977
but the most noble death sentence
a person could receive.

00:22:25.979 --> 00:22:31.451
So, you see how this plays
like this Bunraku play

00:22:31.484 --> 00:22:36.556
analyzes the contracts
between law and justice.

00:22:36.623 --> 00:22:39.793
By the way,
this is inspired by a true story.

00:22:39.859 --> 00:22:46.032
So, if you go to a temple in Tokyo,

00:22:46.066 --> 00:22:49.869
it's called Sengakuji,
it's close to Shinagawa station,

00:22:49.903 --> 00:22:52.472
you can visit the tombs
of the 47 Ronins.

00:22:56.910 --> 00:23:02.716
This play had enormous impact

00:23:02.749 --> 00:23:07.120
on Japanese perception of low injustice.

00:23:07.153 --> 00:23:09.556
And then, let me move to another story.

00:23:09.622 --> 00:23:14.861
Again, this the today's presentation
will grow in a chronological order.

00:23:14.894 --> 00:23:18.331
We start from the law of the Tokugawa,
which we are discussing now.

00:23:18.365 --> 00:23:21.768
And we will come to contemporary law
at the end of the class.

00:23:23.436 --> 00:23:25.405
So, this is another story.

00:23:25.438 --> 00:23:27.240
This is a ghost story.

00:23:27.273 --> 00:23:33.246
Now, ghost stories in the Tokugawa
period were very, very popular.

00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:37.183
The Tokugawa period was,
generally speaking, a period of peace.

00:23:37.217 --> 00:23:42.355
The Tokugawa had unified Japan
after a couple of centuries of war.

00:23:42.389 --> 00:23:47.027
And when there is peace,
the ghost stories become popular

00:23:47.093 --> 00:23:51.898
because when there is war,
people don't want to joke about

00:23:51.931 --> 00:23:56.736
like dying or dead spirits
because people die in wars.

00:23:56.803 --> 00:24:02.108
But during the peace, this becomes
a bit more less a taboo topic.

00:24:02.142 --> 00:24:07.180
So, ghost stories were very popular,
but they were also very, very important

00:24:07.213 --> 00:24:10.817
in terms of the social role
they performed.

00:24:10.850 --> 00:24:11.985
What do I mean by that?

00:24:13.586 --> 00:24:17.724
A recurring topic
in Japanese ghost stories

00:24:17.757 --> 00:24:22.395
in the 17th and 18th century is
there is somebody weak.

00:24:24.431 --> 00:24:29.936
A servant, a farmer, a woman ...

00:24:32.505 --> 00:24:38.244
who is oppressed
by somebody stronger socially.

00:24:38.278 --> 00:24:42.816
So, the servant is oppressed
by the master.

00:24:42.849 --> 00:24:48.588
The farmer is oppressed by the noble.

00:24:48.655 --> 00:24:50.523
The woman is oppressed by the man.

00:24:53.159 --> 00:24:58.298
In that sense, the power relationship
between men and women was unbalanced

00:24:58.331 --> 00:24:59.399
in favor of men.

00:24:59.432 --> 00:25:02.869
So, wives had less power
than their husbands, generally speaking.

00:25:05.138 --> 00:25:10.143
So, these weak person, whoever they are,
are oppressed

00:25:10.210 --> 00:25:12.879
to the point that they die.

00:25:12.912 --> 00:25:18.818
But since their death was unjust,
they will come back as ghosts

00:25:18.852 --> 00:25:23.456
to commit revenge to restore justice.

00:25:23.490 --> 00:25:29.429
And so, during the Tokugawa period,
the ghost stories were these kinds of

00:25:29.496 --> 00:25:34.300
like satire admonishment to power.

00:25:34.334 --> 00:25:37.704
The Tokugawa were really, really strict
about censorship,

00:25:37.737 --> 00:25:42.776
so you could not criticize
the Tokugawa Shogunate directly.

00:25:42.809 --> 00:25:49.082
But using these stories ...
there is a critic to the power,

00:25:49.115 --> 00:25:55.321
but is so in direct that
it was not blocked by the censorship.

00:25:55.355 --> 00:26:00.427
So, for example, in this case,
what's the story of Sakura Sōgorō?

00:26:00.460 --> 00:26:02.962
Sakura Sōgorō was a farmer.

00:26:02.996 --> 00:26:09.202
And in the Tokugawa period,
taxes were paid in nature,

00:26:09.269 --> 00:26:13.406
so like in the rice,
or in other kinds of goods.

00:26:15.075 --> 00:26:21.948
And in this story, the crop is
really, really bad that year.

00:26:21.981 --> 00:26:26.820
So, the farmers have no way
to pay taxes and survive.

00:26:26.853 --> 00:26:30.390
They do not have enough resources
to do both.

00:26:30.423 --> 00:26:36.663
So, they will ask the local noble
to reduce the taxes

00:26:36.696 --> 00:26:39.532
because otherwise, they cannot survive.

00:26:39.566 --> 00:26:43.570
But the noble refuses to reduce taxes.

00:26:43.603 --> 00:26:48.808
So, those farmers are basically
faced with starvation.

00:26:48.875 --> 00:26:54.247
So, they decide to bring the matter
to the Shogun directly.

00:26:54.314 --> 00:27:00.687
And so, their representative
who is Sakura Sōgorō

00:27:00.754 --> 00:27:07.660
goes to Edo, the shogunate capital,
to bring a petition to the Shogun,

00:27:07.727 --> 00:27:12.198
to ask the Shogun
to order the noble to reduce taxes.

00:27:12.232 --> 00:27:16.636
Now, this was possible
under Tokugawa law,

00:27:16.670 --> 00:27:18.772
but at the same time, was forbidden.

00:27:20.407 --> 00:27:22.842
What was the meaning of this sentence?

00:27:22.876 --> 00:27:28.948
The petition this person was bringing
to the Shogun was a valid petition.

00:27:28.982 --> 00:27:33.920
So, the Shogun could hear the petition
and act accordingly,

00:27:33.953 --> 00:27:36.623
and order the noble to reduce taxes.

00:27:36.656 --> 00:27:41.861
But presenting the petition
without an official permission

00:27:41.895 --> 00:27:45.498
was a crime punishable by death.

00:27:45.532 --> 00:27:50.937
So, Sakura Sōgorō knows he is going to
die while he presents the petition,

00:27:50.970 --> 00:27:54.641
but he does that nevertheless,
to save his people.

00:27:54.674 --> 00:27:58.211
So, he goes to Edo,
present the petition,

00:27:58.244 --> 00:28:02.716
goes back to his thief
and is killed by the evil noble

00:28:02.749 --> 00:28:08.922
but then comes back as a ghost
and basically torments the evil noble

00:28:08.955 --> 00:28:11.691
until the noble repents

00:28:11.725 --> 00:28:16.529
and realizes his actions were wrong.

00:28:16.596 --> 00:28:22.702
And at the end of the story, he builds
a shrine in the memory of Sakura Sogoro.

00:28:22.736 --> 00:28:28.241
So, justice is done
by these supernatural means,

00:28:28.274 --> 00:28:32.312
the ghost is the agent of justice
in this sense.

00:28:32.379 --> 00:28:37.384
Okay, let's move to another.

00:28:37.417 --> 00:28:41.488
This is a book is called
Hanshichi Torimonocho.

00:28:41.521 --> 00:28:44.424
In English, it is The Curious Case
book of Inspector Hanshichi.

00:28:46.326 --> 00:28:51.965
Now, we are in a different phase
of Japanese history.

00:28:52.032 --> 00:28:56.870
You know, Japanese history is divided
into several periods the period in which

00:28:56.903 --> 00:29:01.441
the Tokugawa Shogunate was in power
is known as the Edo period

00:29:01.474 --> 00:29:06.479
because their capital was in Edo,
the city which now is Tokyo.

00:29:06.513 --> 00:29:11.351
And then, when Japan had to open
to the foreigners

00:29:11.384 --> 00:29:18.291
because of the pressure by
the United States and by other powers,

00:29:18.358 --> 00:29:25.265
the Shogunate lost power
and imperial power was restored.

00:29:25.298 --> 00:29:28.268
So, we had the Meiji Restoration.

00:29:28.301 --> 00:29:33.807
Now, in the period
between the end of the Shogunate

00:29:33.873 --> 00:29:37.577
and the beginning
of the Meiji Restoration,

00:29:37.610 --> 00:29:43.783
the thing were very confusing
because the Shogun had lost the power

00:29:43.817 --> 00:29:48.755
to effectively control the country,
but the Emperor ...

00:29:48.788 --> 00:29:54.127
when the Emperor came to power,
all the new imperial system

00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.230
had to be designed
from scratch basically.

00:29:57.263 --> 00:30:00.133
So, we have these phases of confusion

00:30:00.166 --> 00:30:04.604
in which it is not really clear
who is in charge of what.

00:30:04.637 --> 00:30:11.611
And this is like detective stories,
as the title in English says.

00:30:14.114 --> 00:30:18.218
It's fascinating to see
this Inspector Hanshichi

00:30:18.251 --> 00:30:23.923
who is a police officer, let's say,

00:30:23.957 --> 00:30:29.863
because what Hanshichi does is not clear

00:30:29.896 --> 00:30:34.034
whether it's legal or illegal,
basically we don't care

00:30:34.067 --> 00:30:38.905
because he is perceived
as authority by the people

00:30:38.938 --> 00:30:43.777
which means there is, again, like
this text is very fascinating to see

00:30:43.810 --> 00:30:49.015
how people attached power to legitimacy,

00:30:49.049 --> 00:30:51.618
to authority rather than law,

00:30:51.651 --> 00:30:56.856
and explains very well this period
of confusion in Japanese modernization.

00:30:59.426 --> 00:31:02.262
Okay, let's move to
another literary product.

00:31:02.295 --> 00:31:04.698
This time is an opera.

00:31:04.731 --> 00:31:09.602
I'm Italian.
I like classical music, I like opera.

00:31:09.636 --> 00:31:13.039
And this opera is called
Madama Butterfly.

00:31:13.073 --> 00:31:19.346
And the composer is this very famous
Italian composer called Giacomo Puccini.

00:31:19.412 --> 00:31:23.783
And I don't know if you've ever heard
of Madama Butterfly

00:31:23.817 --> 00:31:27.954
or if you ever watched
the opera performed.

00:31:28.021 --> 00:31:34.461
The Madama Butterfly is probably
the one single cultural product

00:31:34.494 --> 00:31:39.899
which shaped the imagination about
Japanese women in Europe.

00:31:39.933 --> 00:31:45.638
So, the story is about
these American Navy officer

00:31:45.672 --> 00:31:49.943
who has to station in Japan
for a few months.

00:31:49.976 --> 00:31:53.446
And he gets married to a Japanese girl.

00:31:55.715 --> 00:31:58.985
But he is not really serious
about the marriage.

00:31:59.019 --> 00:32:03.089
So, he knows he will stay in Japan
for only a few months.

00:32:03.156 --> 00:32:08.661
And he decides to get married
to this Japanese woman.

00:32:08.695 --> 00:32:15.235
So, asks basically a matchmaker
to arrange a marriage with this girl.

00:32:15.268 --> 00:32:17.937
But he says, like,
well, I will leave the country

00:32:18.004 --> 00:32:20.940
and when I leave the country,
the marriage is over.

00:32:20.974 --> 00:32:24.544
I can just walk out of
a marriage like this.

00:32:27.180 --> 00:32:30.316
Whereas Butterfly, the girl,
she's really attached,

00:32:30.383 --> 00:32:33.820
and again, there is the tragic element.

00:32:33.853 --> 00:32:39.993
I try to limit my spoiler
generally during this presentation.

00:32:40.026 --> 00:32:43.630
But what's very fascinating is that

00:32:43.663 --> 00:32:50.136
this opera is based on true story,
which was not tragic.

00:32:50.170 --> 00:32:55.208
The true story of a French navy officer
who was in Japan for a few months,

00:32:55.241 --> 00:32:57.744
and decided to get married to a woman.

00:32:57.777 --> 00:33:03.450
But in the real story, the woman
was not particularly interested

00:33:03.516 --> 00:33:05.285
in remaining married to this man.

00:33:05.318 --> 00:33:08.321
It was basically a contract.

00:33:08.388 --> 00:33:11.424
So, then, he leaves Japan,
and this is the end of the story.

00:33:12.992 --> 00:33:15.829
Now the real story is,

00:33:15.895 --> 00:33:20.533
at the end of the 19th century

00:33:20.567 --> 00:33:24.504
but before the new Japanese laws
were enacted,

00:33:24.537 --> 00:33:31.478
whereas the Madama Butterfly is set
in the beginning of the 20th century.

00:33:31.511 --> 00:33:38.018
And what's fascinating is that
in the story, the main protagonist,

00:33:38.051 --> 00:33:41.688
the Navy officer,
thinks well, we're in Japan.

00:33:41.755 --> 00:33:46.760
Here, just like walking away means
you get a divorce, that's easy.

00:33:46.793 --> 00:33:50.797
Man can leave women as they wish.

00:33:50.830 --> 00:33:52.699
And that was not true actually.

00:33:52.732 --> 00:33:55.568
Japan had changed the law,
and that was not possible anymore,

00:33:55.602 --> 00:33:59.406
but even that even before that,
it was not so easy for a man

00:33:59.439 --> 00:34:03.710
to just like relinquish a wife.

00:34:03.743 --> 00:34:09.382
But these works give the idea on
how Western people,

00:34:09.416 --> 00:34:15.155
of course, 100 something years ago,
had this perception of Japan as a place

00:34:15.188 --> 00:34:18.158
where basically men could do
whatever they wanted,

00:34:18.191 --> 00:34:20.760
so it is fascinating in this regard.

00:34:20.794 --> 00:34:25.565
And by the way, they discussed
the law quite a lot in the plot.

00:34:25.598 --> 00:34:31.805
And the person who in reality
gives the best interpretation of the law

00:34:31.838 --> 00:34:34.808
is actually the young Japanese girl,
she's a better lawyer

00:34:34.841 --> 00:34:37.410
than everybody else
in the representation.

00:34:39.779 --> 00:34:44.918
Okay, let me move to ...
this is a collection of short stories ...

00:34:46.686 --> 00:34:52.459
is called Akuma no deshi,
which means the devil's disciple.

00:34:52.492 --> 00:34:58.498
I generally use the English covers
because this class is in English.

00:34:58.531 --> 00:35:03.136
And if somebody gets interested
in reading any of these books,

00:35:03.169 --> 00:35:07.407
I want to provide them with
also like the English version.

00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:13.680
Now, this book
and its collection of stories

00:35:13.713 --> 00:35:19.753
is very fascinating because it's written
by a Japanese author, Hamao Shiro.

00:35:19.786 --> 00:35:25.291
He is one of the first
Japanese prosecutors.

00:35:25.358 --> 00:35:27.827
When the Japanese system
was made modern,

00:35:27.894 --> 00:35:31.664
they had created the system
based on Western law,

00:35:31.698 --> 00:35:35.468
continental European legislation
basically.

00:35:35.535 --> 00:35:38.338
They put in place a procedural system,

00:35:38.371 --> 00:35:42.509
and that originally was based
on the French procedural system,

00:35:42.542 --> 00:35:46.513
then it became more
based on the German procedural system.

00:35:46.546 --> 00:35:52.652
Anyway, this man was a noble,
was the descendants of

00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:58.591
two of the most powerful families
during the Meiji Restoration.

00:35:58.625 --> 00:36:02.662
And he studied law, he was a prosecutor.

00:36:02.729 --> 00:36:07.067
And then he decided to give up
his legal career to become a novelist.

00:36:07.100 --> 00:36:09.502
Families were not particularly happy.

00:36:09.536 --> 00:36:14.007
Now, what's very fascinating is that
during this period,

00:36:14.074 --> 00:36:18.678
when the Japanese had finished
modernizing the legal system,

00:36:18.712 --> 00:36:21.614
in a very short period of time,

00:36:21.648 --> 00:36:27.053
Japan went from Tokugawa law
to legal system,

00:36:27.087 --> 00:36:31.558
which was comparable
to best legal system in Europe.

00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:37.564
When they completed these amazing
efforts to modernize the legal system,

00:36:37.630 --> 00:36:42.535
the Japanese were very proud of
the bodies of law they created.

00:36:42.569 --> 00:36:46.506
And so, they had the some kind of trust
in the legal system,

00:36:46.539 --> 00:36:50.977
say, okay, now the legal system is good,
the legal system can deliver justice.

00:36:51.011 --> 00:36:55.882
And this person actually
is very critical about the legal system

00:36:55.915 --> 00:36:58.752
from an insider perspective,
because he's a prosecutor.

00:36:58.785 --> 00:37:04.991
So, he knows how a procedure works,
and uses his novels to show

00:37:05.025 --> 00:37:08.461
a number of criticalities
of the Japanese legal system.

00:37:08.495 --> 00:37:11.264
Some of them are still valid today.

00:37:11.297 --> 00:37:13.967
For example,
in the Japanese legal system

00:37:14.034 --> 00:37:18.104
is very difficult
to overturn a confession.

00:37:18.138 --> 00:37:23.176
If somebody confessed something,
even if the confession is false,

00:37:23.243 --> 00:37:27.614
maybe because they want to cover
the crime committed by somebody else,

00:37:27.681 --> 00:37:31.918
it's very, very difficult
to overturn a false confession.

00:37:31.951 --> 00:37:34.988
And it's true still today.

00:37:35.021 --> 00:37:39.592
But it's very fascinating that
how those novels are written

00:37:39.626 --> 00:37:42.228
because they're kind of anticlimax.

00:37:42.262 --> 00:37:47.167
So, the characters start with this idea

00:37:47.200 --> 00:37:49.502
that the legal system is perfect.

00:37:49.536 --> 00:37:53.473
And then this idea crumbles
before their eyes.

00:37:53.506 --> 00:37:59.479
So, it's very ... how to say ... well,
he was very competent as a lawyer.

00:37:59.546 --> 00:38:04.484
So, it can be like very, very precise
in spotting all the weak points

00:38:04.517 --> 00:38:05.952
of the Japanese legal system.

00:38:08.421 --> 00:38:12.659
Okay, let's move to a book written
by an American author,

00:38:12.692 --> 00:38:16.429
a contemporary author,
he is still alive.

00:38:16.463 --> 00:38:20.367
And the book is Tokyo Year Zero,
the author is David Peace.

00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:25.038
And the book is based,

00:38:25.071 --> 00:38:29.809
the plot is set in Japan
immediately after World War II,

00:38:29.876 --> 00:38:36.349
when Japan was occupied by the allies,
unlike Germany,

00:38:36.416 --> 00:38:39.586
which was divided into
areas of influence,

00:38:39.619 --> 00:38:44.691
so was occupied by the Soviet, the
Americans, the British and the French,

00:38:44.758 --> 00:38:50.630
Japan was mostly occupied
by the American forces.

00:38:50.663 --> 00:38:55.802
And this period is very complex
from a legal point of view

00:38:55.835 --> 00:39:02.475
because you have the occupation forces,
they are basically around the country,

00:39:02.509 --> 00:39:05.178
but at the same time,
you have a Japanese parliament,

00:39:05.211 --> 00:39:08.415
you have a Japanese government,
you have a Japanese Emperor.

00:39:08.448 --> 00:39:13.086
And so, those Japanese institution
are still in place there.

00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:17.323
So, the relationship between

00:39:17.357 --> 00:39:21.961
the Japanese institutions,
the Japanese authorities,

00:39:21.995 --> 00:39:25.031
and the occupation forces
is very complex

00:39:25.065 --> 00:39:27.333
from a legal point of view,
like who is running the country.

00:39:29.302 --> 00:39:32.906
Now, this book is, again,
like an investigation story.

00:39:35.975 --> 00:39:42.749
Law is not central to the plot,
but there are some passages

00:39:42.816 --> 00:39:47.387
that are quite revealing of
these difficult relationships.

00:39:47.420 --> 00:39:50.990
For example,
there is the American military police

00:39:51.024 --> 00:39:53.927
investigating the Japanese police

00:39:53.993 --> 00:39:56.996
and the Japanese police
investigating some other crimes.

00:40:00.200 --> 00:40:03.370
This book, again,
is written by a contemporary author.

00:40:03.403 --> 00:40:06.473
So, he was not there.

00:40:06.506 --> 00:40:12.512
But he used,
as main sources for this book,

00:40:12.545 --> 00:40:18.218
wonderful historical research
made by other scholars.

00:40:18.251 --> 00:40:22.989
So, it's fairly accurate
from an historical point of view.

00:40:25.658 --> 00:40:32.632
Now, let's fast-forward
to the beginning of the '90s.

00:40:32.665 --> 00:40:38.605
As you know, Japan,
after the post war reconstruction,

00:40:38.638 --> 00:40:42.809
had experienced this
amazing economic growth.

00:40:42.876 --> 00:40:46.813
So, Japan was booming for many decades.

00:40:46.846 --> 00:40:53.119
And in the '80s, Japan entered into

00:40:53.186 --> 00:40:55.955
what is called like a bubble economy.

00:40:55.989 --> 00:41:01.127
So, for a few conjunctural reasons

00:41:01.194 --> 00:41:05.131
and because of some
macroeconomic decisions,

00:41:05.165 --> 00:41:10.136
Japan became extremely powerful
from an economic point of view.

00:41:12.839 --> 00:41:16.976
And the problem was that

00:41:17.010 --> 00:41:21.915
this fast growth,

00:41:21.948 --> 00:41:25.752
for example,
in the real estate industry,

00:41:25.819 --> 00:41:30.056
spiraled out of control
and became what is called a bubble,

00:41:30.090 --> 00:41:31.858
like a speculative bubble.

00:41:31.891 --> 00:41:36.162
So, eventually, in Japan,
this bubble collapsed,

00:41:36.196 --> 00:41:42.335
and Japan entered into a period of ...
not recession, but stagnation.

00:41:42.369 --> 00:41:46.006
And we still live now
in the aftermath of that stagnation.

00:41:47.607 --> 00:41:51.611
Generally speaking,
the Japanese economy is steady.

00:41:51.644 --> 00:41:55.782
Sometimes it grows,
sometimes it like declines a little bit,

00:41:55.815 --> 00:42:00.086
but it overall is
not particularly dynamic.

00:42:00.120 --> 00:42:04.391
Now, this book,
which is calling Japanese Kasha,

00:42:04.457 --> 00:42:09.262
in English, "All She Was Worth"
by Miyuki Miyabe,

00:42:09.295 --> 00:42:12.866
it's, again, the tactical story.

00:42:12.899 --> 00:42:18.805
But this book is set just
after the bubble collapsed.

00:42:18.838 --> 00:42:21.541
And after the collapse of the bubble,

00:42:21.574 --> 00:42:24.110
there were many problems
in the Japanese society.

00:42:24.144 --> 00:42:25.779
Because when the economy was growing,

00:42:25.812 --> 00:42:28.848
people were borrowing a lot of money
to buy stuff

00:42:28.915 --> 00:42:33.119
because there was this idea that like
next month's income will be higher

00:42:33.153 --> 00:42:34.754
than last month income.

00:42:34.788 --> 00:42:37.757
So, why not spending,
what I enjoy not taking part

00:42:37.824 --> 00:42:41.261
in these economic enthusiasm.

00:42:41.294 --> 00:42:45.699
But then when the bubble collapsed,

00:42:45.765 --> 00:42:49.636
many people were left
with a lot of debts,

00:42:49.669 --> 00:42:54.107
and many people had

00:42:54.140 --> 00:42:57.077
bankruptcy-like situations.

00:42:57.110 --> 00:42:58.778
And that was a huge social problem.

00:42:58.812 --> 00:43:02.549
Now, the author, she is not a lawyer,

00:43:02.615 --> 00:43:07.120
but she conducted amazingly
good legal research.

00:43:07.153 --> 00:43:14.127
If you read this book,
you will learn so much about loans

00:43:14.160 --> 00:43:17.764
and their legal regulation
in the early 90s.

00:43:17.797 --> 00:43:23.169
You will learn probably the same as if
you were taking the law classes on that.

00:43:23.203 --> 00:43:26.406
That's why many of my Japanese colleague
interested in law and literature

00:43:26.439 --> 00:43:28.108
use this book.

00:43:28.141 --> 00:43:30.310
And also this book is very fascinating

00:43:30.343 --> 00:43:34.381
because it explains some features unique
of Japanese law.

00:43:34.414 --> 00:43:36.282
So, for example, I don't know ...

00:43:36.316 --> 00:43:38.385
well, if you are Japanese,
of course, you know that.

00:43:38.418 --> 00:43:41.755
But even if you're a foreigner,
you might have heard of the koseki,

00:43:41.788 --> 00:43:46.593
the family registration in Japan,
the family registry.

00:43:46.626 --> 00:43:50.597
Now, this ... again,
I don't want to spoil the book.

00:43:50.630 --> 00:43:54.534
But the main issue in this book

00:43:54.567 --> 00:44:01.141
revolves around the use of koseki,
and the fact that in Japan,

00:44:01.174 --> 00:44:06.513
legal identity
basically cannot be disproved.

00:44:06.579 --> 00:44:10.283
So, if somebody has all the paperwork
in place,

00:44:10.316 --> 00:44:16.089
it is almost impossible to spot out
like an impersonator, for example.

00:44:16.156 --> 00:44:19.693
And again, like this book explains
the koseki system

00:44:19.726 --> 00:44:24.164
in a very, very clear and precise way.

00:44:24.197 --> 00:44:27.167
So, it's really a good book
from a legal point of view.

00:44:29.235 --> 00:44:34.474
Okay, very quickly,
because he is probably the most famous

00:44:34.541 --> 00:44:38.044
Japanese contemporary author,
Haruki Murakami.

00:44:38.078 --> 00:44:39.779
This is a Dance, Dance, Dance.

00:44:43.683 --> 00:44:47.787
In this book,
there is a bit more than one chapter,

00:44:47.854 --> 00:44:50.757
which is a police interrogation.

00:44:50.790 --> 00:44:53.993
And even though the law plays
a very marginal role in the plot,

00:44:54.027 --> 00:44:58.398
the police interrogation scene,
it's very, very important

00:44:58.431 --> 00:45:02.802
because it conveys all the uneasiness

00:45:02.836 --> 00:45:07.874
and how uncomfortable
can be the experience of

00:45:07.907 --> 00:45:10.377
dealing with a police interrogation
in Japan.

00:45:10.410 --> 00:45:12.912
And this is a problem.

00:45:12.946 --> 00:45:18.018
In Japan ... Japan is a liberal democracy.

00:45:18.051 --> 00:45:23.656
It is a wonderful, safe country, but the
regulation of some legal institution,

00:45:23.690 --> 00:45:29.863
for example,
investigation and criminal procedure,

00:45:29.896 --> 00:45:32.098
it's kind of strange.

00:45:32.132 --> 00:45:36.202
For example, you might have heard about
the Ghosn's case, last year,

00:45:36.236 --> 00:45:37.937
the CEO of Nissan.

00:45:40.106 --> 00:45:43.810
The Japanese prosecutors
and the Japanese police has the power

00:45:43.843 --> 00:45:47.847
to keep people under custody
for a very long time

00:45:47.881 --> 00:45:49.883
even without a formal indictment.

00:45:49.916 --> 00:45:53.286
So, even if somebody is just suspect
of something,

00:45:53.319 --> 00:45:57.557
they can be kept under custody
for many, many days.

00:45:57.590 --> 00:46:02.495
And another feature is that the police
interrogation can really be annoying,

00:46:02.562 --> 00:46:06.599
if not some form of abuse.

00:46:06.666 --> 00:46:11.971
That's why after many years, recently,
the legislation was changed

00:46:12.005 --> 00:46:15.942
to allow videotaping
of the police interrogation and so on.

00:46:16.009 --> 00:46:19.012
So, now the scene in the book
is not particularly brutal,

00:46:19.045 --> 00:46:21.147
is not violent, or anything,

00:46:21.181 --> 00:46:27.153
but it conveys this feeling
of like uneasiness,

00:46:27.187 --> 00:46:29.522
like the main character has
in dealing with that.

00:46:31.958 --> 00:46:37.630
This is a kind of a crazy book,
is a recent one.

00:46:37.697 --> 00:46:43.436
And what's fascinating about this book,
from a legal point of view, is that

00:46:43.503 --> 00:46:45.005
in some pages, there are like

00:46:45.038 --> 00:46:48.975
the text of the law
becomes part of the narration.

00:46:49.042 --> 00:46:52.445
So, this book is about ...

00:46:52.479 --> 00:46:56.182
let's say that the theme
behind this book is like nationality,

00:46:56.249 --> 00:47:00.286
who is Japanese,
and what does it mean to be Japanese?

00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.858
So, nationality from a legal
and identitarian point of view.

00:47:04.891 --> 00:47:10.030
But it's kind of strange to see
these pieces of law

00:47:10.063 --> 00:47:12.599
becoming part of a novel.

00:47:15.001 --> 00:47:19.739
And the last book I'm dealing with today
is like Sweet Bean Paste.

00:47:19.773 --> 00:47:21.908
In Japanese, it is "An."

00:47:21.975 --> 00:47:28.648
And in this book,
it is a very delicate, very nice book.

00:47:28.682 --> 00:47:35.055
But at the same time, it highlights some
dark side again of Japanese society,

00:47:35.121 --> 00:47:39.325
because some minorities
during Japanese history

00:47:39.392 --> 00:47:42.328
have been discriminated
from a legal point of view.

00:47:42.362 --> 00:47:46.332
And some of them have been
discriminated in a very hard way.

00:47:46.366 --> 00:47:50.136
For example, some people
who had some specific illnesses

00:47:50.170 --> 00:47:53.239
were heavily discriminated
by the Japanese law.

00:47:53.273 --> 00:47:59.012
And it's only very recently that
we came to not only legal change,

00:47:59.045 --> 00:48:03.283
but also reparation for the suffering
those people have been through.

00:48:03.316 --> 00:48:09.923
So, the underlying theme

00:48:09.956 --> 00:48:13.793
behind this book is like
discrimination and injustice,

00:48:13.827 --> 00:48:16.563
but in this very, very delicate
and engaging way.

00:48:19.532 --> 00:48:21.301
Wow, again, so ...

00:48:23.269 --> 00:48:26.806
we had a change
in law and society in Japan,

00:48:26.873 --> 00:48:33.646
and we had a reform in 2001
to bring law closer to the people.

00:48:33.680 --> 00:48:38.451
In 2001, there was a big reform
in Japanese law.

00:48:38.518 --> 00:48:42.322
And we had, for example,
the introduction of the jury system.

00:48:44.124 --> 00:48:47.727
The jury system in Japan
does not work like the American jury.

00:48:47.761 --> 00:48:52.832
So, like 12 people,
12 lay people taken from the citizens.

00:48:52.866 --> 00:48:59.606
And the jury in Japan is a mixed jury
between judges and lay people.

00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:04.644
And the main purpose of the jury
in Japan is

00:49:04.678 --> 00:49:09.716
not to have a more equitable process,

00:49:09.749 --> 00:49:13.253
but it's to make
normal people understand the law.

00:49:15.355 --> 00:49:19.025
And we also had like
the law school reform ...

00:49:19.059 --> 00:49:23.596
as you know, even Nagoya university
as a law school, Hoka daigakuin.

00:49:23.663 --> 00:49:28.735
Hoka daigakuin is a Japanese name,
but in common jargon,

00:49:28.768 --> 00:49:31.805
we call it like a law school in katakana

00:49:31.838 --> 00:49:34.641
because it's inspired
by the American law school system.

00:49:34.674 --> 00:49:38.011
And one of the key features
behind the law school was that

00:49:38.044 --> 00:49:41.214
we wanted people,
without a strictly legal background,

00:49:41.281 --> 00:49:44.117
to also study law
to bring more diversity,

00:49:44.184 --> 00:49:50.724
to have more people
not originally from legal studies

00:49:50.757 --> 00:49:52.459
to get interested into law.

00:49:52.492 --> 00:49:56.429
That created somehow an interest in law.

00:49:56.463 --> 00:49:58.598
We have movies, this is very good.

00:49:58.665 --> 00:50:01.101
This is Soredemo Bokuha Yattenai,

00:50:01.134 --> 00:50:06.873
it's a movie
about a guy accused of a crime,

00:50:06.940 --> 00:50:10.977
and all the difficulties
he goes through because of that.

00:50:11.044 --> 00:50:15.382
And as an Australian colleague said,
Professor Kent Anderson,

00:50:15.415 --> 00:50:20.787
watching this movie is the closer thing
you can do than going to the court.

00:50:20.820 --> 00:50:25.358
And this is a recent movie,
Sandome no Satsujin, by Kore-eda.

00:50:25.392 --> 00:50:30.930
So, a very famous
and acclaimed Japanese director.

00:50:30.964 --> 00:50:36.169
This is also about the idea that it is
very difficult to reverse a confection.

00:50:36.202 --> 00:50:41.441
And this is a Netflix series about the
Tokyo Trial, which is the trial they had

00:50:41.474 --> 00:50:47.747
after the war for Japanese
accused of being war criminals.

00:50:47.781 --> 00:50:50.350
It's not particularly exciting
as a TV series.

00:50:50.383 --> 00:50:52.218
I mean, it is not Breaking Bad.

00:50:52.252 --> 00:50:57.023
But it's kind of fascinating that

00:50:57.057 --> 00:51:00.126
these kinds of series
are being produced.

00:51:00.160 --> 00:51:03.430
Then there are like TV series ...

00:51:03.463 --> 00:51:07.734
the TV entertainment programs
vaguely inspired by law.

00:51:07.767 --> 00:51:10.904
This is like
"Gyoretsunodekiruhoritsusoudanjo".

00:51:10.937 --> 00:51:14.841
It's comedy, but there are these
kind of legal questions behind.

00:51:14.874 --> 00:51:18.645
And we have this crazy video game,
which is like Gyakuten Saiban.

00:51:18.678 --> 00:51:20.647
In English, it is Ace Attorney.

00:51:20.714 --> 00:51:25.218
With this, flamboyant representation
of law, and the lawyers ...

00:51:25.251 --> 00:51:27.854
again, like bringing the law
closer to society.

00:51:30.890 --> 00:51:35.328
We are also becoming a bit more
flexible about that in academia.

00:51:35.362 --> 00:51:38.498
This is a book that was published
a couple of years ago.

00:51:38.531 --> 00:51:41.901
And it's a collection of essays
about the relationship

00:51:41.935 --> 00:51:44.604
between the law and justice
in Japanese popular culture.

00:51:44.671 --> 00:51:49.342
I contributed with a chapter, but there
are some way more interesting chapter

00:51:49.376 --> 00:51:55.115
like that Death Note, the manga
slash anime, and the Death Penalty,

00:51:55.148 --> 00:51:58.785
or like the representation of justice in
ONE PIECE.

00:51:58.818 --> 00:52:02.756
So, these kinds of very,
very inclusive research.

00:52:02.789 --> 00:52:07.127
So, to conclude, this is a very
fascinating area of research.

00:52:07.160 --> 00:52:09.362
I say that because
it's my area of research.

00:52:09.396 --> 00:52:11.698
So, of course, it's fascinating to me.

00:52:11.731 --> 00:52:17.203
But I hope you will agree that
like approaching law in this way

00:52:17.237 --> 00:52:21.374
is more entertaining
than reading law books.

00:52:21.408 --> 00:52:27.947
But what's important is that aside
from the entertainment aspect of that,

00:52:27.981 --> 00:52:29.149
it's really useful.

00:52:29.182 --> 00:52:32.452
Again, as I said, in the introduction,
you will learn way more

00:52:32.485 --> 00:52:37.190
about the legal system
through non-legal sources sometimes

00:52:37.223 --> 00:52:40.260
than you will learn reading law books.

00:52:40.293 --> 00:52:45.098
But while this field is very developed
in the other countries,

00:52:45.131 --> 00:52:48.968
in Japan,
we are kind of still at the beginning.

00:52:49.002 --> 00:52:52.706
There are some wonderful scholars
at the University of Hokkaido,

00:52:52.739 --> 00:52:56.676
who are very, very good,
other colleagues are very good,

00:52:56.743 --> 00:52:59.045
but I think we should know more.

00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:03.783
And particularly, we will like if any
of you is interested in literature,

00:53:03.817 --> 00:53:06.753
from a literary point of view,
it would be nice to reach out

00:53:06.786 --> 00:53:11.358
and maybe do joint research together
from a legal perspective

00:53:11.391 --> 00:53:13.493
and from literary study perspective.

00:53:15.261 --> 00:53:18.998
Okay, that concludes
my presentation for today.

00:53:19.032 --> 00:53:21.668
I hope you enjoyed that.

00:53:21.701 --> 00:53:24.037
And thank you very much
for your attention.

00:53:24.070 --> 00:53:30.643
So, these are my contacts,
my email, and my academia page.

00:53:30.677 --> 00:53:35.281
So, in case, I stirred your curiosity,
and if you want to ask something,

00:53:35.315 --> 00:53:40.787
or if you're curious about some specific
work, don't hesitate to reach out to me.

00:53:40.820 --> 00:53:43.490
So, that's all for today.
Thank you very much.